Why Pass Trail Maps

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Austin Larson
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I have been playing around with a little WhyPass trail map stuff.

I put the trails on a Google MyMap

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1a7M-45XlxTJzy0-_2JSplDa4sg...

 

I got the BLM map in a dropbox folder. Lets try this link to it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/25nbrt0ywy38kv6/CBP_FieldSign_SizeD.pdf?dl=0

 

I have a kml for google earth.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hijl595urxwkpvy/Carpenter%20Bypass%20Trails.km...

I am going to try to put the trails on http://www.trailforks.com/ but it will take some detailed work on each trail individualy. 

I plan on being at the board meeting tomorrow. -Austin

 

Austin
 

Austin Larson
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I really like the old map! Who made it?  

Dropbox link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8t95w0cpxln01z/Whypass_Map_Legend_2014.pdf?dl=0

Austin
 

MaxSteel
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I'm thinking the very original maps were made by Jill/IMBA.  Modifications were made to the base maps by someone at BLM...probably.

Appreciate your efforts Austin!

Paul Timm

DOD/Worker Bee

"Let us ride"

kimm2222
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Hi Austin, 

Actually I created that map. I based it on some old, old GPS tracks from 2010 that I believe Arthur Turlak gave me. I’ve updated it a couple of times to reflect new, decommissioned, and obliterated-by-logging trails. I had just updated the map to include the new routes in The Gift. You can find the link to the most recent version on the DOD Resources page:

http://www.disciplesofdirt.org/sites/default/files/WhypassMap_2017.pdf

BTW I wasn’t able to open the kmz file in Photoshop. Is there another way to view it?

Thanks!

 

:kim

MaxSteel
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Wow Kim, you continue to amaze me!  Thanks

Paul Timm

DOD/Worker Bee

"Let us ride"

Austin Larson
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Hi Kim

I am also having trouble with that kmz so I deleted it out of the dropbox. I am going to have to figure out another way to view that. It was supposed to be a KML or KMZ that could be used in Google Earth.

Thats a great map you made. I have never used photoshop for maps but I am very interested in it.

Austin
 

Austin Larson
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Hi Kim

I am also having trouble with that kmz so I deleted it out of the dropbox. I am going to have to figure out another way to view that. It was supposed to be a KML or KMZ that could be used in Google Earth.

Thats a great map you made. I have never used photoshop for maps but I am very interested in it.

Austin
 

Toll Horse
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Kim your map skills are superb!  I have long wondered whom to thank for the awesome Whypass map.  Thank you for your beautiful work!

For anyone who would like a GPS aware smartphone version of the map, I converted it to a GeoTiff file.  Here is the link:   

https://1fichier.com/?1qi9q8x3bt

There is an app called PDF Maps that is a free download for personal use on iphone or android.  It will read GeoTiff files and give you the carat that shows where you are.  You can also have a breadcrumb trail left for tracking your travels.  Pick up PDF Maps in the iphone or android store.  The best way to get the map in is with itunes file sharing (i only have iphone so unsure about how to do this with android).  Put the downloaded GeoTiff on your computer, then load to the app with itunes file sharing.

Here is a screenshot of the app running the whypass map.  You can see the red lines where I rode.  The straight lines are where I forgot to turn it off and left. The circle with the dot in it pinpoints your current location.  The GPS coordinates of your location appear at the bottom.

If anyone needs any assistance getting this on their phone, send me a message and I will help.

Have a great ACM!

 

 

Whypass_r.jpg

I'd rather just go ride my bike.

taylorj
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All,
Be careful when following that link.  That website is littered with malware.  Glad I had my AV tools working.

- Josh 

Toll Horse
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Sorry for the crappy link.  Here is another one:

http://www.filedropper.com/whypassmap2017g

It would be cool if we had a file upload section for stuff like this.

I'd rather just go ride my bike.

kimm2222
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Thanks, Toll! I know there is some incredible mapping software out there but I don’t own any. However, with a comprehensive GPS track and Photoshop you can create a pretty decent map.

Thank you for doing the GeoTiff conversion. With the Pdf Maps app that will be really useful. Someone who didn’t know the sytstem could ride around randomly and be able to see which trails they rode. Awesome!

:kim

Mudflaps
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Kim,

As useful as all this is, it seems "wrong" to some of us who had to learn it all the old way, by getting lost at night numerous times. And then building connectors to link it all up. We're victims of our own success.

Remember the old adage for newbies - "Bring beer or we'll abandoan you 35 miles from your car" 

Some may recall when the trails didn't exist during daylight... <;}

kimm2222 wrote:

Thanks, Toll! I know there is some incredible mapping software out there but I don’t own any. However, with a comprehensive GPS track and Photoshop you can create a pretty decent map.

Thank you for doing the GeoTiff conversion. With the Pdf Maps app that will be really useful. Someone who didn’t know the sytstem could ride around randomly and be able to see which trails they rode. Awesome!

:kim

dirtydown
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As I recall, there was no reason to abandon the newbs like me because most of them were vomitting by the end of the ride.  They weren't interested in drinking anything.  It just seemed harder when your tires were under the mud for most of the ride.

When I started, I didn't see Whypass in the daylight for almost 4 months.  I would get lost in the day.  Now, I get lost even with a map.  The majority of my first rides on any of the regional trails were at night.

Nick Glazener

DOD Dumpster Day Care Daddy

Kevin Madden
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Does this still work for you? I checked into the app (Avenza Maps) and all of the most recent reviews say it will no longer allow you to use your own maps for free.

tillikum
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Yes, this is true.

The old PDF Maps app allowed unlimited custom map downloads for free, but the app became Avenza Maps and now only three custom maps can be downloaded for free.  Then, you have to get one of their annual subscriptions to download any more custom maps.  Many of their in-house topo maps are still free to download, however.

Radam
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The "upgrade" from version 3.0 when it turned into Avenza Maps on really killed that app.  My work around is to keep extra maps in my Notes and load them in/ out as needed.  Beyond the free 3 map limit it's $29 PER year to load your own maps, however any maps purchased thorugh their store, no matter the source, don't count toward limit. 

A number of people I know use and seem happy with Gaia GPS, a bit steep at $20 for the app, but it's only a one time expense with some pretty good tools.

Cheers.  -Adam.

Radam
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The "upgrade" from version 3.0 when it turned into Avenza Maps on really killed that app.  My work around is to keep extra maps in my Notes and load them in/ out as needed.  Beyond the free 3 map limit it's $29 PER year to load your own maps, however any maps purchased thorugh their store, no matter the source, don't count toward limit. 

A number of people I know use and seem happy with Gaia GPS, a bit steep at $20 for the app, but it's only a one time expense with some pretty good tools.

Cheers.  -Adam.

Radam
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The "upgrade" from version 3.0 when it turned into Avenza Maps on really killed that app.  My work around is to keep extra maps in my Notes and load them in/ out as needed.  Beyond the free 3 map limit it's $29 PER year to load your own maps, however any maps purchased thorugh their store, no matter the source, don't count toward limit. 

A number of people I know use and seem happy with Gaia GPS, a bit steep at $20 for the app, but it's only a one time expense with some pretty good tools.

Cheers.  -Adam.

TravisN000
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Avensa Maps android versions BEFORE the 2.0+ series allow unlimited map imports, but after that there is a limit to a max of 3 imports without purchase..  older versions of Avenza Maps for Android are available here:

https://apkpure.com/avenza-maps/com.Avenza

..as with anything found on the internet, install at your own risk.. having said that, the site indicates that they take steps to verify that apps are not tampered with (the MD5 "finger print" is verified / compared to Google's Play store, and posted on the site for verification after download).

If you are not familiar with installing apps from outside the play store, you may have to enable / allow "unknown sources" in your security settings first..

After removing / un-installing the current version and installing an older version on your android device, find it in your  play store app, click the menu (three dots) in the upper right corner, and UN-CHECK auto-update. 

TravisN000
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I was having issues with the links above, but found a downloaded copy of the georeferenced Whypass tiff and uploaded to my dropbox..

http://www.dropbox.com/s/qfv71kq933z3cmr/WhypassMap_2017_g.tiff?dl=1

..havn't tested it yet, but Avenza does accept it as a valid georeferenced map. If this breaks some rule, let me know!

;p

Mudflaps
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Maps, what heresy is this? 
After 15+ years of taking people out there and "losing" them in order to get beer so you'll guide them back to the car, we can't have this! Such devaluing of local knowledge, I'm appalled...

OK, psueudo-rant over. Cool beans kids. I gotta find if there are any such resources for where I now live. Congrats to the mapp makers!

 

Cheers!

Tim

 

Kevin Madden
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I've never had any guide (or anything) - my simple GPS track makes it impossible to get lost. It doesn't save me from those hills, though.

taylorj
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 Jinx, you said "impossible".  
Better bring an extra couple snack bars with you on future rides.
:)

- Josh 

Kevin Madden
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Yeah, the battery could die unexpectedly on the GPS and the phone both. Always keep an awful Costco fig bar in my pack just in case :-)

tbmaddux
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Added a few trails in the Gift (Ode, Mama, SST, Stumps) to Trailforks. You can upvote them if you like:

https://www.trailforks.com/region/carpenter-bypass/confirm/

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